我觉得lz现在做出是不是后悔的评价还为时过早,从毕业的时间上看你是比master晚了2年, 但在以后人生漫漫的职业生涯中,很多时候比拼的就是实力,以后大家都是硕士,博士了,那怎么比,还不是看谁有真正的实力?所谓十年磨一剑,厚积而薄发,不是没有道理的.当然人生有的机遇觉得是越早些抓住越好,但如果把文凭当成敲门砖的话,他的作用不过发挥那么很短时期,长期的竞赛没有真正的实力还是不行的!有时侯要把事情看的远一些,10年后谁赢谁输谁知道!坚定自己选择的路,总有一天一切都会有回报的!
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真正实力的积累,应该是在工作以后。一个名牌大学的应届毕业生,和一个普通大学毕业,但在大公司工作过2年的人,显然是后者更有竞争力。

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你不可能说吃到第四个包子说饱了,你就说前面三个包子吃了没用吧? 一样道理,你在校学习的东西是基础,以后肯定有发挥的作用。 如果按你这么说,那还有这么多人想读名牌大学干什么?直接想办法先去工作了。现在国内都这么多人考研究生,那你说本科毕业的早参加工作的是不是读研的以后更有竞争力? 讲话不能这么说。

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原帖由 jiejiedog 于 2007-9-28 14:29 发表
真正实力的积累,应该是在工作以后。一个名牌大学的应届毕业生,和一个普通大学毕业,但在大公司工作过2年的人,显然是后者更有竞争力。

我说的不是这种初始状态的比较,而是几年后的比较.你如果有机会看一下工作10年以上的人,现在他们的状况可能和他们刚入门时的状况是很不一样的.

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原帖由 jiejiedog 于 2007-9-28 13:51 发表


当时是气愤diplom相对于master的不公平,现在是后悔当年为啥就没加入master走捷径的行列呢。




现在已经全是MASTER了

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Actually as a seientist or engineer, there is no shortway to go...

work hard, sacrifice to science,  have a very simple life, without too much money,  even without a family.

Most of them feel happy, satisfied. That's all.

[ 本帖最后由 Scherry 于 2007-9-28 17:17 编辑 ]
Unfortunately, its simplicity is also its weakness since it is frequently too simple to represent realistic problems.

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Why regretion?
hehe
every time i think of the fact that there's no longer any new diplom-graduates
i'm quite happy

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diplom多好啊,比我们读master的好多了!

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diplom也好,master也好,学的知识多与少深与浅其实以后在社会上都那么回事。关键是在国外读书期间是否注重个人素质培养,跟德国人的社交能力的培养,学习他们的为人处事的方式态度,提高语言这才是关键。

无论你读master还是diplom只要注重这方面的自身培养,出来就能混。毕业年数多一两年算什么?关键是学习期间是否得到了人生价值的充分体现。

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好好学吧,既然选择了,无法放弃,安心学吧!

Shanghai, China, September 20, 2007 - The Board of Grace Semiconductor Manufacturing Corporation has named Dr. Ulrich Schumacher as the new President and CEO of the Company, effective September 15th, 2007.  Dr. Schumacher will also be a Director of the Board of the Company.

Mr. Dong Yeshun, Chairman of Grace Semiconductor, said: “We are delighted and honoured that Dr. Ulrich Schumacher has decided to take on this role as President and CEO of Grace Semiconductor.  Dr. Schumacher enjoys an unrivalled reputation worldwide as one of the best minds and leaders in the semiconductor industry.  With someone of Dr. Schumacher’s calibre and international stature heading our management team, we are confident that we can further accelerate the process of bringing the Company to the next level.”

Dr. Schumacher was born in 1958 in Bergisch Gladbach, Germany.  He studied Electrical Engineering and Business Administration at the University of Aachen, Germany, and was awarded a Doctorate of Engineering. In 1986, he joined the Semiconductor Group of Siemens AG in Munich, Germany, where he held several management positions in manufacturing, engineering and marketing.  In 1988, he became Assistant to the CEO and drove Strategic Planning and Alliances.  In 1991, he became General Manager of Memory, Chipcard IC and Multimedia Products.  In 1996, he was appointed President and CEO of Siemens Semiconductor Group, and in 1998, he became a member of the Board of Siemens AG.

In 1999, Dr. Schumacher led the spin-off of the Siemens Semiconductor Group and successfully brought it public in 2000 as Infineon Technologies. Under his leadership, Infineon Technologies grew significantly, from being the 19th to the 4th biggest semiconductor company in the world, and for several years, it was the fastest growing company among the world’s top 20 semiconductor companies.  Dr. Schumacher resigned in 2004 and joined Francisco Partners, a private equity firm in San Francisco, USA, which specializes in high technology investments, as Operating Partner.

Dr. Ulrich Schumacher said: “I very much look forward to joining the Grace team as its President and CEO.  It is an opportunity I could not resist.  The potential of the foundry market remains enormous, and Grace is in an excellent position to become one of the leading PRC companies in this space.  I am glad to work in such a competitive environment, and in such a vibrant and dynamic country.”  Dr. Schumacher has resigned from Francisco Partners but will continue to support it as a special advisor.

Dr. Schumacher is assuming the role of President and CEO from Mr. Dong, who will remain as Chairman of the Board.  Mr. Dong first took over as President and CEO of Grace in 2004.  Previously the General Manager of Bosch Gasoline Systems China, Mr. Dong has overseen a critical transition of the Company over the last three years.  Under his leadership, the Company was able to weather an industry downturn, strengthen its technological, manufacturing and product capabilities, and attract new talent.  Mr. Dong is also a Vice President of Shanghai Alliance Investment, the leading shareholder of Grace.

“Mr. Dong has undertaken a remarkable transformation of the Company over the last few years,” Dr. Schumacher commented.  “He has built a solid foundation, in terms of technology, customers and human resources.  It will be my mission to build upon that foundation and to expedite Grace’s development into a major force in the global semiconductor industry.”

Grace Semiconductor is a specialized semiconductor foundry with a strong focus on high quality services and advanced technologies, including embedded nonvolatile memory, high voltage, and low leakage processes.  The Company started operations in 2003 and has been one of the fastest growing companies in the industry.  The Company is located in the Zhangjiang Hi-Tech Park in Pudong, Shanghai, and has more than 1,400 employees.  Shanghai Alliance Investment is a leading shareholder of Grace Semiconductor.  Other notable shareholders of the Company include Cheung Kong Holdings and Hutchison Whampoa of Hong Kong, as well as Silicon Storage Technology and Sanyo.  Two Asian private equity houses, GEMS and UCL Asia, are also investors in the Company.

舒马赫其人:新经济的代表人物

舒马赫1958年出生于科隆旁边的小城贝尔吉斯格拉德巴赫,在亚琛工大获得了工程学博士学位。1986年进入慕尼黑的西门子公司半导体部门,一路升腾,1996年成为西门子半导体集团总裁,1998年成为西门子集团董事。

1999年,西门子半导体集团脱离西门子,在舒马赫率领下建立了英飞凌公司。南德意志报说,“他在英飞凌的时代,几乎没有任何一个其他人象他这样成为新经济的希望和失望的象征。”他把英飞凌推上了法兰克福股市,使这家公司成为世界半导体业界的老四。那时,他坐在保时捷赛车里的一张照片成了他的标准像,直到今天。虽然他不是那个一级方程式的舒马赫,但他同样是时代的赛车手。
----太阳给予我们希望,给予我们能量,也给予我们能源。

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