brat

Originally posted by 老虾 at 2005-10-27 12:19 AM:
劳动法没有对违约金的额度作具体规定，但必须公平合理。对于100万这样的天文数字，完全可以递交仲裁机构界定合同的合法性。
合同是双方的约定，但必须建立在法律的框架内。

另外，违约金的定义就是劳动合同中 ...

我只是由于劳动法没有规定违约金上限，所以100万并不违法。但是实际操作中并不太可能拿到这么多金额。对于一般劳动者，会考虑其支付能力。出现这种纠纷，先仲裁，仲裁不服可以上诉。具体操作起来很是麻烦。也有很多漏洞。

如果公司开除员工，也有可能取得违约金，这要看合同具体如何约定了。比如你泄漏了公司机密，公司根据规定开除你，你的违约金也是逃不掉的。还有比如你旷工，这样也是要付违约金的。不然我工作了3个月，感觉不爽，我旷工1个月，公司开除我，然后我又不付违约金，那这个违约金还有什么意义？

雨凌

真复杂，哎，要是毕业后也是那么多麻烦事情的话，我真觉得还是上学好。
不过上学也是为了将来有发展啊。
我觉得大家应该总结一下面试的经验，好让大家有个警惕，不要上当，同时也积累一下经验。听上面这些前辈们说的，真是吓死我们这些巴望毕业的小辈啦。。。

Markus_Xiang

Right

hahaxixi

其实，6000 不少了，要知足，你知道我们学音乐的回国能挣多少么？而且我们要更辛苦的练琴，不能比呀！

老虾

Originally posted by hahaxixi at 2005-11-2 03:29 PM:
其实，6000 不少了，要知足，你知道我们学音乐的回国能挣多少么？而且我们要更辛苦的练琴，不能比呀！

学音乐的挣钱都按小时算的吧.

托洛茨基

know how

哈哈

让我想起前几天一个纪录片

德国企业家抱怨中国人偷他们的know how~

lilio

舍弗勒（中国）有限公司
Schaeffler (China) Co., Ltd.
File name: Training and Employee Development
Agreement (new updated).doc
Date: Dec. 2005
Version: 2 Page: 1 / 7
Training and Employee Development Agreement
This Agreement (the “Agreement”) is made by and between 本协议由以下双方签定
Employer雇主: Schaeffler (China) Co., Ltd. (the “Company”) 舍弗勒（中国）有限公司
Legal Address地址:
中华人民共和国江苏省太仓市经济开发区朝阳路18号
18 Chaoyang Road, Taicang Economical Development Area, Jiangsu Province, P. R. China
Hereinafter referred to as the “Company”以下简称公司
And 以及
Employee员工: (the “Employee”)
Date of Birth出生日期: 1
ID No.身份证号码: 1
Legal Address地址: ______________________
Hereinafter referred to as the “Employee”以下简称员工
1. Scope of the Agreement适用范围
This Agreement is made as an annexure to the Employment Contract between the Company and
the Employee signed on (Signature date of “Employment Contract”).
本协议作为签定于 年 月 日的劳动合同之附件
In consideration of the requirements of working and the Employee’s career development, the
Company allows the Employee to take this specified training project as follows:
鉴于工作及员工发展需要，公司同意员工参加以下培训项目：
（ ）Overseas Training海外培训；
（ ）Domestic external training国内外训；
（ ）Others其它；
And the Company will bear all or part of training expenses in consideration that the Employee
hereby accepts the arrangement and agrees to abide by the following rules:
如果员工接受此协议并承诺遵守协议之规定，公司将负担全部或者部分培训费用。
2. Training Period 培训时间
The expected training duration is ______ week(s). The actual training duration and expense is
according to Training Completion Form what would be confirmed by the Company and the
Employee after the training.

舍弗勒（中国）有限公司
Schaeffler (China) Co., Ltd.
File name: Training and Employee Development
Agreement (new updated).doc
Date: Dec. 2005
Version: 2 Page: 2 / 7
本次培训预计的培训周期为________周。实际的培训周期和培训费用将以培训结束后经员工和公司
双方确认的《培训完成确认表》为依据。
The training period is according to training plan, and may be changed by the Company.
培训时间参照培训计划，公司可根据需要更改培训周期。
In Overseas Training, the training duration is counted from the date when the employee starts from
China, till to the date when he/she finishes training and comes back China.
针对海外培训，培训期自员工从中国出发当天开始计算，至培训结束返回中国之日结束。
3. Training Cost 培训费用
The training cost which includes all of expenses borne by the Company (such as but not limited :
all expense for passport and visa, transportation fee, accommodation fee, training allowances
during the training period of full time training, insurance and training expenses paid by the
Company) shall be calculated in accordance with the actual expenditure after the completion of
training. Upon the completion of the training, the Company provide the Employee a Training
Completion Form in which the exact training duration and the actual amount of training cost
shall be confirmed. The Employee shall sign if he/she has no disagreement.
培训成本，包括所有由公司承担的费用（例如但不限于: 办理护照和签证的所有费用、交通费用、
食宿费用、培训津贴、保险费、以及课程费用），将在培训结束后根据实际支出加以计算。公司和
在培训结束后将向员工出具《培训完成确认表》以确认实际的培训时间及培训成本。员工如无异议
应签字确认。
In Overseas Training or Overseas Work Service Training, training expense will be calculated as
100