原帖由 天界的传说 于 2006-10-20 23:29 发表


你一边抨击FLG,一边又说这样的话,真不知道你是怎么想的.

你的话前后矛盾也很大啊

一个相信前世来生因果报应的人,应该知道这一世遭的所有罪都是前世造的孽,怎么能怪在别人迫害头上呢?

这些谴责由一个不信佛的人来说还可以理解,而由你这个信的人来说,似乎和自己的信仰自相矛盾啊
冬冤家,我有心将你打,却一个心儿怕;要不打,只恨你这冤家羞人煞;罢罢罢,低眉红了脸儿帕,嫁了吧!

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天地兩茫茫,世人向何方,迷中不知路,指南有真相。貧富都一樣,大難無處藏,網開有一面,快快找真相。
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原帖由 even 于 2006-10-20 23:33 发表

你也不看看报道的都是什么网站?
要么贴英文原版,我无话可说,要么就不要贴。

英文原版International Education Development (IED)'s Statement at the U.N.



UNITED NATIONS

Sub-Commission on the Promotion and Protection of Human Rights
Fifty-third session
Agenda item 6

August, 2001

International Education Development has followed the topic of terrorism and human rights for many years and we welcomed the appointment of the Sub-Commission's Special Rapporteur Mme. Koufa in 1996. ... We strongly agree with the Special Rapporteur that State terrorism in the form of government terror against its own people -- what she calls "terrorism from above" -- produces far more gross violations of human rights than any other form of terrorism. ...When a regime resorts to State terrorism, the international community can expect to be overwhelmed with cases under the international mechanisms and swamped with persons seeking asylum from that regime. Such is the case in China with the regime's violent assault on practitioners of Falun Gong.

In our statement under item 3 we described the Falun Gong Practice as we have found it to be. The government, in exercise of the right to reply, attempted to justify its State terrorism against the group by calling it an "[Chinese government's slanderous words deleted]" that has caused deaths and the break-up of families. In our investigation, the only deaths have been at the hands of the Chinese authorities; families have been broken up because family members have been killed by the regime; people have been broken down, not by Falun Gong, but by extreme torture, incarceration in mental hospitals with brutal treatment, hard labour in labour camps and other such practices. As was reported in the International Herald Tribune on August 6, 2001, the regime admits that it has officially sanctioned violence against practitioners in order to wipe out Falun Gong. The regime points to a supposed self-immolation incident in Tiananmen Square on January 23, 2001 as proof that Falun Gong is an "[Chinese government's slanderous words deleted]". However, we have obtained a video of that incident that in our view proves that this event was staged by the government. We have copies of that video available for distribution.

In his most recent report ( U.N. Doc. E/CN.4/2001/66, the Commission's Special Rapporteur on Torture attests to tens of thousands detained and tortured practitioners. (Paras. 246-290). The Commission's Special Rapporteurs on Violence against Women and Extrajudicial Executions also attest to these abuses, with similar indications as to numbers. (E/CN.4/2001/73/Add.1, para. 19; E/CN.4/2001/[ ]). We are compiling evidence indicating that at least 50,000 Falun Gong practitioners are detained in prisons, labour camps or mental hospitals, of which thousands are beaten and many tortured to death. Hundreds of thousands (perhaps millions) of practitioners are severely threatened. The UN mechanisms clearly cannot handle this volume of verified cases, nor can the international community easily cope with perhaps millions of asylum seekers -- all of whom would clearly meet asylum criteria. Accordingly, the international community as a whole and the Sub-Commission in particular should address this situation of State terrorism as one of extreme urgency.

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Posting date: 9/9/2001
Original article date: 9/8/2001
Category: Worldwide Support

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原帖由 驴子 于 2006-10-20 23:24 发表


有个罪叫诈骗,被诈骗人给钱的时候也是心甘情愿的

你也觉得李大师所说的都是真的么?我是觉得他说的不少东西都是假的,所以会觉得他是诈骗。

现在是贪的多得和贪的少得互相指责,这叫啥?狗咬狗吧。

如果你想说的是政府办的不对,我觉得这个例子选的好,如果你想要借说政府不对来支持李大师,我觉得这例子举的太差了。

贬低A的敌人并不能说明A有多正义

而且我觉得可怜的是轮子们,对于李大师,我不相信他有多信仰他让他的学员们信的东西。所以说轮子们可怜。

我非常不想和你开始这种文字游戏。

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明天大家请起早捡几个酒瓶子买米。。。谢谢。。

大家都不要闹了。。。睡觉了。。。早上4点在西部墓地接头。。。接头暗号。。3个代表。。再见。。。

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原帖由 跳舞的雨滴 于 2006-10-20 23:38 发表

英文原版International Education Development (IED)'s Statement at the U.N.



UNITED NATIONS

Sub-Commission on the Promotion and Protection of Human Rights
Fifty-third session
Agenda it ...

我猜想你是在http://www.clearwisdom.net/emh/articles/2001/9/9/13711.html上找到的。
很抱歉,这个网站就是flg开的。我希望看到这条新闻的的确确是出现在International Education Development (IED)'s Statement at the U.N.(网页)上的。
谢谢
Je ne sais pas......

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原帖由 boilingsnow 于 2006-10-20 23:39 发表


照你这么说这个世界上是没有客观的东西的,只要不承认它客观就行了。

审查和通过是一些他们自己的工作人员和一些自愿者而已,他们的知识不可能全面到全能,他们的判断也不可能准确到毫厘。但是他们是要这个东西继续具有存在下去的活力而负责的。如果他们把wiki搞成明显带有偏见、倾向或者色彩的媒体,它也就不能发展到今天的程度。

wiki当然没有什么“权威性”,这个年代,是个权威们纷纷被打倒的年代,还有谁会承认谁是权威?但是wiki至少具有参考性。wiki对于一个事物,往往会列出对立双方的观点,自己不表述观点,只阐述现象,这就能说明一定的问题。


这就是世界最大的问题,权威性受到质疑,所以要挑最值得相信的,我的标准是要选和该问题没有什么利益关系的。

个人标准不一样,对于绝对客观的东西,我认为它存在,可是我们无法知道,知道了也无法确定其客观性,这是个哲学问题。
冬冤家,我有心将你打,却一个心儿怕;要不打,只恨你这冤家羞人煞;罢罢罢,低眉红了脸儿帕,嫁了吧!

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原帖由 小白 于 2006-10-20 23:39 发表

我非常不想和你开始这种文字游戏。

我知道你的观点,政府确实在很多事情上都做得不好

不过这里很多人都在说***请勿发布这里不欢迎的主题,谢谢!***不好,你却来说政府不好。。。算是反驳他们么?

这算是玩文字游戏么?
冬冤家,我有心将你打,却一个心儿怕;要不打,只恨你这冤家羞人煞;罢罢罢,低眉红了脸儿帕,嫁了吧!

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