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标题: 英国愤青开骂了-伦敦八分钟 (BBC上的留言) [打印本页]
作者: 驴子    时间: 2008-8-28 15:52     标题: 英国愤青开骂了-伦敦八分钟 (BBC上的留言)

伦敦8分钟，英国人在BBC上的留言，开骂了。。。

Ohmy the Chinese will be a hard act to follow. What a shambles theBritish effort was, very embarrassing indeed. A double decker bus,beckham, an xfactor winner, a sweaty aging rock star, dancers withumbrellas throwng newspapers everywhere. I guess a good symbol ofmodern day Britain. I fear our efforts will always be second class toChina. This might show new labour off for what they are and what theyhave done to our once great country
天啊，中国人的表演将是很难去学习，英国的表现是这么的丢脸，丢脸之极。一辆双层公交，贝克汉姆，一个选秀赢家，一个老摇滚明星，一群舞者拿这雨伞乱丢报纸，我猜这就是现代伦敦的标志。我恐怕我们的表现对比中国来说永远只能是二等。。。。。。

Thedancing was a bit straggly in the " London " routine . After seeing allthe cyclists taking part,the Chinese will think "Nobody can afford carsin London "
伦敦的例行表演中登场的那些舞者简直就是群魔乱舞。眼看着那些骑着自行车的家伙也来凑热闹，中国人都会认为"伦敦人都买不起车啦"

TheBritish "teaser" was ok, but we were disappointed to see the performerin the wheelchair was not in fact disabled but was leaping around laterin the dance.
英国人还不赖，不过当我们发现那位坐轮椅的表演者根本不是残疾的时候--他在稍后的舞蹈中到处蹦达来着 --- 好失望呀么好失望。

Didanyone else this the 'London 8 minutes' presentation was - dare I sayit - rubbish!? Leona sang her heart out on top of a ladder, on top of abus whilst 20 contemporary dancers did their stuff way below. It wasjust so low key relative to what had gone on before it.
这儿还有没有人也觉得这次"伦敦8分钟"表演根本就是--恕我直言--垃圾！？Leona站在那巴士顶上的高架子上唱歌，简直把她的小心肝都给吓破了；同时还有那20来个家伙在底下伴舞。跟之前的那些表演相比，真是够丢分的了。

Butoh, our offering at the closing ceremony was embarrassing.A red bus,apop singer, an ageing rocker and an overpaid ball kicker was awful.Where was our great Island heritage portrayed in all this flummery?
哦，我们在闭幕式上的表现真丢脸。一辆红吧是，一个流行歌手，一个摇滚老头，还有个我们付了太多薪水给他的踢球的家伙 -- 这一切都太糟糕了。在这堆乱七八糟的糟粕里头，我们这个伟大岛屿的传承却无处可见。

Organisers - please do better for us in 2012.
组织者 -- 行行好，好好干～在2012年给我们挣点脸

And why can't Boris button his jacket? Too fat or bad tailoring?
这句话是说他们市长的：为什么Boris上衣的扣子不扣起来？他太胖了还是衣服剪裁不合适？

I'vejust watched the Olympic closing ceremony, and as I feared, Britain'scontribution was embarassing and totally pathetic - I just hope theymanage to do better in 2012. It will obviously be impossible to rivalthe spectacular pageant that Beijing provided, but I thought thedancing (if you can call that dancing) and the Leona Lewis/Jimmy Pageeffort was just pitiful. Hopefully, we can ditch all this governmentinspired 'Cool Britannia' garbage and present something a bit moreslick and professional.
刚看了闭幕式，跟我担心的一样，英国的表现真丢人而且完全令人失望，我只希望他们2012年能搞好点儿。很明显我们没法跟北京搞出的壮观场面好点，但我想那些舞蹈（如果你管那个叫舞蹈）和俩歌手的表演都很令人遗憾。希望我们能够摆脱政府提倡的那些"酷酷的大不列颠"的垃圾，展现一些更专业和娴熟（？）的东西

I agree that Adrian Childs was poor: he seemed to think that he was on the One Show.
The London Bus routine was pretty much rubbish ... the music was poor and everything smacked of pop culture. Period.
The Games themselves were superbly run. The BBC was teetering on the brink of overblown nationalism, however.
我也觉得Adrian Childs很可怜，他看上去以为自己是在个人秀。。
伦敦巴士的演出特别垃圾，音乐很糟糕，所有一切都带着流行文化时代的味道。
运动会本身搞得非常好，但bbc有过分的民族主义之嫌（是嫌bbc吹捧英国运动员太厉害？）

I'm staying in Singapore and feel embarrassed to go to work tomorrow after that dreadful showing by London 2012
我住在新加坡，在伦敦2012年可怕的表演过后我明天去工作的时候会感觉很尴尬。

I live in Germany and, like the person from Singapore, will be ashamed to meet my friends tomorrow
我住在德国，就像那个住新加坡人说的，明天去见朋友的时候会变的很丢脸。

JimmyPage and David Beckham have been massive icons of British popularculture. I'm not especially a fan of either, but they perfectly suitedto the ceremony.
Not bothered either way about Leona whatshername,but the chief embarrassment, reducing us instantly to laughing stock ofthe world and diminishing at a stroke the achievements of our athletes,was the presence of Boris Bloody Johnson!!! This man symbolizeseverything wrong with Britain - a deeply untalented buffoon, with athoroughly sinister interior. Get him off the stage once and for all.
Jimmy Page和贝壳都是英国流行文化的重大标志。我并不是他们的粉丝，但他们很适合这个演出。
那个叫Leona啥啥的演出我也不觉得糟（就是那个独唱的mm），但是最大的丢人之处，直接把我们埋汰成全世界的笑料并且抹杀了我们的运动员取得的成绩的，就是那个虾米BorisJohnson（伦敦那个混混市长）的出现！这家伙象征着英国所有糟糕的东西――一个完全没有天赋的小丑，内心丑恶。把他永远逐出舞台吧！

WhenI heard about the plans for the London presentation, including the"arrangement" of the national anthem and the rehashed 70s rock music, Ithought "it can't possibly be as bad as I'm imagining it". Well, itwasn't. It was a thousand, toe-curlingly hideous times worse. Againstthe dignity, seriousness and power of the Chinese displays, it was sofar beyond embarrassing, my brain has already almost forgotten it, in adesperate paroxysm of self-defence.
当我听到伦敦发表的计划，包括"安排的"国歌和70年代的摇滚歌曲，我想这不可能比我想象的还要糟糕，好了，它不是，它是千万倍的更加糟糕。对比尊严的，严肃的和力量的中国表演，它比丢脸还要丢脸，在绝望的自我保护状态下，我的大脑已经将它忘记。

omg, I hope our eight minutes during the closing ceremony is not a foretaste of the tackiness to come in four years time. "
It felt a lot longer than eight minutes..... Every cringe and every gasp of horror made it feel like a lifetime!
If that is all we have to offer, lets hope the rest of the world has popped out down the pub when we take centre stage.
Ourathletes deserve much better than this, they did us proud in Beijing(lets not forget the Paralympics too) and will continue to do so.
饿滴神，我希望闭幕式这8分钟不是预示着四年之后我们要展示出来的东西。
这个感觉不止8分钟，希望我们跑上台去表演的时候世界上其他人都跑出去泡吧了……（哈哈）
我们的运动员值得比这个好得多的东西，他们为我们在北京赢得了骄傲（别忘了还有残奥会）并且会继续这样做。

Mindyou, from the wretched logo to the vacuous miming chick to David BloodyBeckham, it was all a perfect reflection of London and England as theynow are: cheap, tatty, shallow, and above all laughing enormously attheir own jokes while the rest of the world looks on with contempt.Perfect.
Now, 2012... where can I go to avoid it all? Please can I move to China?
现在，2012－－跑到哪里我可以完全的避开它？请问我能搬到中国去吗？

Ihave been glued to the Olympics constantly and very proud of Team GBbut my god what on earth was that 8 minute section in the closingceremony.
The chinese put on a fantastic show and we have basically a red bus and a sparkler.
Who ever put this together should be sacked before we are embarressed anymore.
By the way BBC should be given a gold medal for the coverage, first class.
我一直迷着奥运会，也很为英国队的表现骄傲，可是饿滴神啊，闭幕式的8分钟到底在干啥啊！
中国人的表演非常令人着迷，可我们就只有一辆红巴士和一些发光物（是指巴士变形后出来的绿哇哇的东西咩？）
把这些东西搞到一起去的人应该被炒鱿鱼，在我们继续丢人之前。
ps：bbc的报道应该给颁一块金牌，一流的。

Abeautifully organised Games all around, then Boris appears, jacketundone, looking like a drunk who gatecrashed the party, what anembarrassment
一个组织有序的美丽的运动会，然后Boris出现了，
衣冠不整
像个酒鬼一样冲进了派对
多么令人羞耻啊！！！！！

Ihave a Grandson living and working in Beijing and I only hope he staysunder cover until the humilation dies down a little. It certainly willnever go away.
In 8 mins we have become the laughing stock of the world.
我有一个孙子生活和工作在北京，我只希望他在这丢人的气氛减小前藏好自己。它肯定永远不会消失。
在这8分钟，我们已成为世界笑柄

Ithought it was fine. Are we going to have to look forward to anotherfour years of whingeing about the Olympics? If so, I'm glad I'm livingin China.
（哈哈哈这大哥比较安心）
我觉得不错，是不是我们不得不面对着另外四年关于奥运会的抱怨？如果是的，我很高兴我现在住在中国。

―― Leona！ Poor girls must be so nervous!
―― She sounds like a whale mating
I didn't think it was possibly but this both sucks and blows.
Grow up London 2012 and stop trying to be so 'cool'. This is embarrassing.
―― 利昂娜！可怜的姑娘们很紧张吧!
―― 她听起来像是只正在交配的鲸鱼
我都不忍心这么说，但是这个的确是又SB又NC
成熟点，London 2012，别那么装酷。真丢人

Funnyhow the Beijing Olympics had absolutely nothing to do with Beijing.They were all about China. But the London Olympics are apparently allabout London.
有趣的是，北京奥运和北京没什么太大关系，而是关于整个中国。但是伦敦奥运很明显只和伦敦有关

Is anyone else finding this all a bit shabby after the chinese dancing etc
大家有没有发现，在中国的舞蹈等等后面出场，他们显得多么寒酸啊

Why don't my buses look like that?
汗，我坐的公交车怎么不像那个样子

TheChinese did it again the closing was amazing. First class and out ofthis world. The one negative was the London Show what in the heck wasthat. In Athens when the Chinese did there welccome to show it wasamazing and you knew you where going to get something special inBeijing. I hope that London does better than what they showed to-day.
中国人又让他们的闭幕式（和开幕式一样）一样NB，世界一流甚至超越世界！唯一让人不爽恶心呕吐的是伦敦的8分钟。在雅典闭幕式的时候，中国人华丽丽滴欢迎表演，就让人知道北京会展现出他的特别之处。我希望伦敦会比我们今天所看到的做得好些。

Replicateit, we don't have a chance it hell. For one thing we'll be lucky tofind 1% of the volunteers from Beijing. Perhaps all the people claimingon benefits should be forced to volunteer !!!
Smith, London
复制它,我们根本没TMD机会.其中一点如果我们走运的话我们能找到相当北京1%的志愿者.可能所有人都在抢夺本该属于志愿者的利益.

Forgetabout the image of Myra Hindley. What about the image of some guypainting graffiti on a wall? What are we trying to say here? "Come toLondon, where criminal disfigurement of public property is welcomed andcelebrated?!"
忘掉Myra Hindley的样子吧.看看那个一群人在墙上涂鸦的画面?我们到底想表现什么?来伦敦吧,这里毁坏公共财产的犯罪行为会受到欢迎.

Dontknow what to laugh more at - the tacky 8 minutes of rubbish the UK puton in Beijing or the smug comments on here about how "At least we arefree.." Last time I looked the UK was the most watched (CCTV) nation onearth and we have a government that has used fear and hate to strip usof freedoms on a daily basis. The only difference between the UK andChina is that they wasted billions more than we can afford to- but Imsure we'll waste as much as we can. But freedom?? Dont make me laugh!
Terry Roberts, Shropshire
不知道要嘲笑什么,在北京展示的英国垃圾8分钟还是这里自鸣得意的留言关于"至少我们是自由的",最后一次我看到英国是地球上安装最多监视器(CCTV英国沿街安装的监视系统,不是中央台哦)的国家,利用恐怖和仇恨来控制我们的日常自由,中国和英国之间唯一的区别是他们用掉了比我们的承受能力还多的钱,但是我相信我们也会花费我们能用的每一分钱.但是自由,别让我笑了.

The Chinese people seem to loveall things western (David Beckham included by the looks of it) but inreturn all we can do is bad mouth them and show no respect. What doesthat say about us.
There's an old saying, treat people the same as how you would like to be treated.
Rob, London
中国人似乎喜欢关于西方的所有事情(包括贝克汉姆),但是做为回报我们能做的只是说他们的坏话和不尊重.
有句古语,用你期待别人对待你的方式来对待别人

Oops, I forgot about the fireworks. Weren't they wonderful!
I was so impressed by how they managed to create the Olympic Rings in the sky - truly amazing.
Thank you China.
[cheesed-off], United Kingdom
哦...我忘说烟花了,太漂亮了,
他们是怎样把五环打在天空的,太不可思议了.
谢谢中国.

Inmy time I've witnessed countless Royal Variety Performances and theopening ceremony of the Dome. This British fiasco was worse than any ofthem, and even at only eight minutes seemed interminable. No wonderLondon mayor Boris Johnson looked so uncomfortable beforehand. He musthave known what was coming.
俺目睹过无数的盛大演出也看了DOME(这个不大明白）的开幕式，这回英国的演出可真是一场彻头彻尾的失败，比我看过的那些演出中的任何一次都更糟糕，以至于演出虽然只有8分钟，都让人觉得冗长的无法忍受。怪不得伦敦市长包里斯?逅镌谀侵?前看起来相当不爽-- 他一准是早就知道了接下来就要丢脸了。

I have two tips for you, Boris.Keep your hands out of your pockets when attending high-profile eventslike this, and secondly fire whoever responsible for this fiasco andhire proper showbiz professionals ?C from Las Vegas if necessary ?C tohandle the opening and closing ceremonies in 2012. Another toe-curlingembarrassment like this would be unendurable.
波利斯（伦敦市长)，俺有两个锦囊妙计贡献给你：一，在如此盛大高端的场合下，丫儿地把手从你那兜兜里掏出来；二，赶紧炒了那个端出英国8分钟这么一锅垃圾的责任人，2012年英国办开幕式闭幕式的时候一定要雇些演艺圈里的专业人员--万不得已的时候从赌城拉斯维加斯找也成哪。咱谁也受不了到时候再来那么一出让人?宓慕胖和范汲槌榈霓限窝莩觯。?

The closing ceremony was, as expected, spectacular and beautiful.
闭幕式就像想象中的那样壮观和美丽

Ihave just finished watching the Closing ceremony of the BeijingOlympics. I must say that it was an incredible show from the beginningto the end. The whole event went on very smoothly. I agree with the IOCchairman that these games have opened China to the world and the worldto China.
我刚刚看完北京奥运会的闭幕式。不得不说这是一场从头到尾都令人称奇的表演。整个表演尽展的很顺利。我同意国际奥组委的说法"这个奥运会会让中国与世界互相沟通"

Thank you family of China. Thank you Beijing 2008.
We are all Children of the World and China have proved that to us.
Allof the Olympians deserve credit for all the dedication and effort. Itis the Greatest Show on Earth. With the best of the best. 2012 will bea great test for GB and as one Nation what a great challenge for us.
谢谢你中国，谢谢你北京2008
我们都是世界之子，中国向我们证明了这个道理。
所有选手的努力都是值得的。这是地球上最伟大的盛会。最中之最。2012对英国来说是一个考研和挑战。

Welldone China on a fantastic organisation of the games which was flawlessand Team GB for their medal haul. Thank you China for putting the U.Sinto second place.
（注意看最后一句 --）
中国在赛会的组织上干的棒极了，梦幻一般的毫无瑕疵。英国选手也一样。谢谢你，中国，你们让美国掉到第二的位置去了。

Welldone, China! You have given the world a magnificent Olympics despitethe efforts of the chattering classes in the Western media to portrayyou as some Stalinist state.
中国棒极了！你给了整个世界一个精彩绝伦的奥运会，与此同时西方媒体还在喋喋不休的努力把你塑造成斯大林主义似的的国家。

Thefemale who hugged Yao Ming was Lauren Jackson, an Australia basketballplayer playing in WNBA. After Yao entered NBA, there was rumor she hada crush on Yao, but Yao turned her down. There were many gossip aboutthem.
So, seeing them hugging at the closing ceremony really reallymade me laugh, because 4 years ago, at the closing ceremony of AthensOlympic, Yao and his girlfriend 'Ye Li' came out together and that wasthe first time their relationship went public
（外国人也知道姚明的八卦啊）
那个在闭幕式上拥抱姚明的女运动员是在WNBA打球的LaurenJackson，当姚进入NBA打球时，他们曾经发生过一段绯闻,但是姚拒绝了她>_<看到他们在闭幕式上拥抱真是太好玩了，你知道四年前在雅典的闭幕式上，姚和他的女朋友叶莉第一次手牵手出现在公众面前

What was that red bus /umbrellagarbage all about? What an embarrassment for UK. It was not so much thepathetic handover performance that upset me, but the arrogant, rude anddisgraceful behavior of London's mayor Boris Johnson when attending thehandover party in Bejing. Show some respect Mr BJ ! Beijing was agracious host and deserves some praise at the handover.
Robert, Windsor
TMD红色巴士和垃圾雨伞到底是虾米啊？？！！真是给英国丢脸啊。从来没有比这次可怜的交接仪式更雷到我的了。而那个伦敦市长Boris Johnson在北京闭幕式的交接仪式上无知、粗鲁和毫无尊重的表现更是丢人。给北京一点尊重吧！北京是个热情和蔼的主人，在交接仪式上值得尊重！！

Productionof Global sporting superstars at the 2008 Beijing Games is correct andwill remain memorable. Yet, some of us tend to place focus on mattersof less importance and one wonders what is their ulterior motives. Allcountries with high crime rates should learn from these recentlyconcluded games, and note that it is of high importance to develop theyouths sporting potential from a tender age, so that their high energycan be burnt in the right direction and not in criminal activities.
Hollis N Hosein, Trinidad and Tobago -WI
让北京举办地球上最盛大的体育盛会无疑是正确的，而且将会难以忘怀。我们中的一些人光注意那些根本不重要的细节，而且还有人觉得他们（中国）是别有用心滴。
所有高犯罪率的国家都应该从最近结束的奥运会学点什么，而且注意一下在豆蔻年华就发掘青少年的潜力是很重要滴，让他们的精力在正确的方向燃烧，而不是在犯罪行为上发光！

8minutes of total rubbish , What the hell are we playing at , That wholebus thing and crazy people was a total sham , And as for the indiangirl representing the children of England well I have seen it all now .What a mess , 2012 wont be a patch on this olympics.
sam, london
8分钟是彻头彻尾的垃圾，我们TMD到底在表演什么啊？乱七八糟的巴士和疯子一样的表演者简直丢脸丢大发鸟。而对于那个代表英国的印度女孩，简直看不下去了。什么破玩意儿嘛。2012年伦敦根本不配举办奥运会！

Welldone China, well presented games, Boris came across well, showed wehave a good mayor, who knows what London has to do to ensure we put ona good show, advice from those of us who are still British is dump mostof the things in the 8 minutes as they are not in tune withLondon/British values or what people know us for, increase the use ofthe union flag as the useless logo looks half useful in that guise!Boris has clearly been saddled with Livingston's leftie leftovers, dumpthem be bold!
[GlobalTemplar], Kingston upon Thames, United Kingdom
中国，干得不错！是一场精心准备的奥运会，Boris的出现也还好，显示出我们有多么优秀的一个市长啊，他知道伦敦应该做什么来显示我们可以举办好奥与会，我们这些人的大多数根本不明白伦敦/英国价值的人的建议都在8分钟里面出现鸟，或者说让世人对我们滴像一个没用的logo一样的联邦国旗又多了点印象。
Boris清楚滴展示了一个左派份子的垃圾形象，我们打包把他倒掉吧！！
（这段翻译得不好，这人反讽能力太强了，?澹?

Ithas been a long time that I felt embarrassed for 8 long minutes. Ireally hope the organizers get there act together for the 2012 Olympicsin London, because whether we like it or not the Chinese did awonderful job from beginning to end. Whether true or false, let us hopethe Red Arrows will do a fly past at the opening ceremony in Londonbecause that will be something worth watching, unless of course Borishas something up his sleeve to surprise us all.
Rose, Bicester
很长一段时间内，我都为我们的8分钟感到丢脸，我真心希望那些组织者去为了我们的2012年伦敦奥运会，一起去那里（北京）看看，因为不管我们喜欢与否，中国人从头到尾都做得非常棒。无论正确与否，让我们希望在伦敦开幕式前the RedArrows（英国红箭飞行表演队，在BBC开幕式的评论上就有英国人提到我们不会又上红箭吧，看来英国果然只有红箭啊-_-）能够腾飞起来，只有那样，说不定才有点看头，除非Boris又把他的手揣在兜里，来给我们所有人一个惊喜！

In the London segment inthe final countdown at the end of the Bejing olypics was total rubbish.If that is the best we can do to portray ourselves, then what will therest of the world think. As a once great country we are now behind thethird world, Shame
Thomas Smith, Newcastle upon Tyne
伦敦在北京奥运会上最后的表现简直是垃圾。如果那些就是我们最好的东西，世界上其他人会怎么看？？一个曾经伟大的国家，如今却还不如第三世界，丢脸！！！

There is one word for the "London 2012" presentation at the Beijing Olympic closing ceremony...naff !
Thisincludes Boris Johnson who looked as though he is in need of a decenttailor. It would help if he buttoned up his jacket. He looked like a4th form schoolboy.
The Chinese show was magnificent. Our athletes were brilliant.
Delewar, Colchester
只能用一个词来形容代表"伦敦2012"在北京奥运会闭幕式上的表现---白开水！
这其中包括咱们的市长大人Boris Johnson ，他看起来需要一个体面的形象顾问，如果他把扣子扣上，看起来也不会那么?澹?他看起来像一个4年级的中学生！
中国的闭幕式非常恢宏壮观，我们的运动员们也优秀。

The closing ceremony was just fine apart from the British bit which was simply atrocious!
Whydid we have some prehistoric rock guitarist and a talent show winnermiming to some abysmal sound track? What has David Beckham got to dowith the Olympics? Hardly portrays a young, vibrant and exciting visionof what the 2012 games might offer.
If this is an example of howgood London's Olympics is going to be, then perhaps Boris should askthe Chinese to keep the Olympic flame in Beijing.
[BirdGirlsCanFly]
除去英国糟糕透顶的表演部分，闭幕式还是不错滴。
为什么我们要找一些过气的摇滚吉他手和糟透的选秀歌手来刺激我们？？贝克汉姆掺和在奥运会中做什么？？我们几乎不能展现2012年伦敦可能提供的一个年轻、有活力和令人兴奋的印象。
如果这是伦敦奥运会将会展现出来的样子，也许Boris先生应该叫中国人把奥运会旗留在北京！

The Beijing to London handover shows how ill equipped we are to deal with an event of this scale.
Compared to spectacular displays by the Chinese, our offering is a pathetic embarrassment.
The2012 Party belongs on Blue Peter and was on par with an end of termschool show: Scouting for Girls destroying London's Calling; Morrisons'theme tune by Last Choir Standing and The Feeling playing with nofeeling at all.
Is this all Britain has to offer?
Helen, Liverpool
北京-伦敦交接仪式显示出我们对应对这种盛大场合是多么的?灏 ?
相比中国华丽恢宏的闭幕式，我们的表演简直是去丢脸滴！
2012年的开幕式应该是以Blue Peter 为主吧，而闭幕式会以中学毕业晚会的形式来搞：调戏女孩子的声音毁坏伦敦的通讯；合唱团唱Morrisons的诗歌腔调；唯一的感觉就是没有感觉。
这就是英国能够提供的？？？？

I see censorship and control by the state-owned media continues.
Whereis the report on the BBC website of the celebrations in the Olympicborough of Waltham Forest being canceled because of yet another knifemurder, this time yards away from where the choir was supposed to singto the cheering happy crowds in Walthamstow, who instead were replacedby the police investigating a crime scene.
You couldn't make it up. You really are a Ministry of Truth.
humble scholar, London, United Kingdom
我发现国有媒体的管制和审查制度还在继续啊。
BBC上关于Waltham Forest区庆祝奥运的评论都到哪里去了？因为另外一个持刀杀人犯就被河蟹鸟？？那里的合唱团这段时间都应该在庆祝Walthamstow狂欢的人群吧？那可是被警察调查出来的犯罪情景啊。
你们没必要编造，你们真的是真相的终结者！
（民主自由的英国BBC的留言其实也是要审核的，国内的民猪精蝇们震惊、失望鸟）

The Chinese showed their rich heritage and history in a dignified and beautiful performance.
Us? We showed just what a farce 2012 will be.
Ourcountry's heritage (prior to the last government!) is one to be proudof. We have customs and a richer history than many others. So why arewe showing a logo from the 70's (I'm a designer, it's shocking!) and adisplay of ageing rock, one-hit wonders, chavs and only modern London?
I'm proud to be English, but in 2012? I may be moving...
Angela, Chesterfield
中国人以一种高贵和美仑美焕的演出，展现了他们最辉煌的历史和灿烂的文化．
我们呢？？我们却只显示了２０１２年一场闹剧．
我们国家的历史文化值得我们每个人骄傲，我们有着比世界上其他任何国家都丰富的习俗和历史．那我们为什么却要拿出一个７０年代的logo（我是个设计师，太雷人了！）和过时的摇滚blabla的东西，以及现代的伦敦来秀？？
作为英国人我很骄傲，但是对于２０１２？？我可能会搬走．．．．．

Letshope the UK can match the chinese games with same character and skill!Well its all up to Boris now and his management capabillities!! We knowour athletes are capable!! Mind you he has on hell of a job to beat!!
[newtried], maidenhead, United Kingdom
让我们期待国家能够整出和中国的表演和技术相媲美的奥运会吧．当然现在这都要看Ｂoris的管理能力了！！我们都知道我们的运动员都有这个能力！！希望他能小宇宙大爆发！

Whycouldn't the BBC TV commentators just shut up when there is music onthe screen? They did the same stupid thing at the opening and onceagain today. The TV is there for us to WATCH and when the music is onwhy give commentary? Also so much about history and the meaning of thisand the meaning of that and the symbolism of this and that. For Heavanssake WHY did they not just shut up and let us listen to the music, tothe drums and all that was happening. This was a disastrous coverage.
Hercules, London
ＢＢＣ电视播音员能不能在音乐响起的时候闭上他的乌鸦嘴？？他们今天又和开幕式的时候一样犯了同样的错误．音乐响器的时候，电视是给我们＂看＂的，为什么在那里ＪＪＷＷ说个不停？？
太多太多关于历史的评论了，一会儿这个是什么，一会儿那个是什么，这个代表什么，那个象征什么．有完没完！！
上帝啊，为什么他们不闭上臭嘴让我们好好聆听这音乐，鼓声以及所有的一切？这场报道真ＴＭＤ恶心

606:"A beautifully organised Games all around, then Boris appears, jacketundone, looking like a drunk who gatecrashed the party, what anembarrassment."
一场有条不紊的庆祝仪式华美进行中，这时boris（伦敦市长）像个醉汉一样敞着领子突然闯了进来，真他妈令人尴尬。

ANDHERE'S BECKS! AND A WOMAN IN A RUNNING OUTFIT PLAYING A VIOLIN! Becksboots a ball into the crowd... just the one, and it doesn't quite makethe crowd... a couple of officials have a bit of a scrabble over it...and that's that, London's eight minutes are up... what to make of that?
小贝出来了！还有在跑动人群中拉小提琴的女人。小贝将一个足球踢向人群。。。只有一个，没有引起太大的骚动。。。两个工作人员乱扒了一通。。。就这些，伦敦八分钟结束了。。。谁明白这是想表达什么意思吗？



看到的搞笑中国评论：
大巴士开进来的时候我就猜，难道装了一车的恐怖分子，然后突然冲下来，端着机枪一阵突突突突~~~体坛至少50年内不能恢复元气！后来，证明我错了，因为被雷了！！比突突突突还恐怖，是齐齐苦苦齐齐苦苦，变形金刚

后面回这个评论的：
这位兄台，英雄所见略同啊
不过我更阴暗一些，觉得那些人拿的都是超级牛掰的远距离攻击武器，直扫zhuxi台。。。
作者: 驴子    时间: 2008-8-28 15:53

骂的好厉害

想想4年前中国也是一堆人看着大腿骂着张艺谋
作者: fussfun    时间: 2008-8-28 21:23     标题: 北京8分钟VS伦敦8分钟

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作者: fussfun    时间: 2008-8-28 21:32

今天和一个搞电视制作的朋友谈起来，她大赞英国8分钟。说是看到了其中沟通和交流的主题，非常棒。
搞得我赶紧到网上搜来看。

果然是专业人士，观察角度不一样。她看到的，未必大多数人能看到。西方就喜欢玩抽象艺术，喜欢暗藏的逻辑性，其实不够大众化。
相比之下，还是中国人做的东西喜闻乐见一些。

再回头看当年的北京八分钟，突然发现这个表演结构设计得就和古代的章回小说一样。每章都很精彩，中间缺乏连贯性呢。。。。
作者: B3B4    时间: 2008-8-29 02:36

原帖由 fussfun 于 2008-8-28 22:32 发表
今天和一个搞电视制作的朋友谈起来，她大赞英国8分钟。说是看到了其中沟通和交流的主题，非常棒。
搞得我赶紧到网上搜来看。

果然是专业人士，观察角度不一样。她看到的，未必大多数人能看到。西方就喜欢玩抽象艺术，喜欢暗藏的逻辑性，其实不够大众化。
相比之下，还是中国人做的东西喜闻乐见一些。

再回头看当年的北京八分钟，突然发现这个表演结构设计得就和古代的章回小说一样。每章都很精彩，中间缺乏连贯性呢。。。。

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不敢苟同。
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英国8分钟，什么暗藏逻辑，小学三年级的构思水平。抽象，我看像抽风。连英国人自己都羞愧难当。
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北京8分钟，我始终都给以很高的评价，从哲学的高度用简单的符号抓住了人们的神经，融会贯通。元素化的表演，表达出深厚的中国人文沉淀和现代中国的交汇，以至于后来的开幕式我感觉张还能做得更好。
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现在是中国的月亮圆。

[ 本帖最后由 B3B4 于 2008-8-29 03:38 编辑 ]
作者: m2p    时间: 2008-8-29 08:37

周星驰说过，创作是很主观的事情。敢于骂的人一般都是觉得自己明白导演用意的人，相对来说自己国家的人更容易觉得自己理解足够深刻，所以骂得也最凶。说实话，我没看懂伦敦的8分钟，也不好意思说好还是不好。伦敦现在要搞成前卫艺术之都，以后这种莫名其妙的东西肯定会更多，但这样的贬低也未必合理，别忘了梵高和毕加索也曾经被很多人无情的贬低过。
作者: cherubyupan    时间: 2008-8-29 08:52

还可以还可以至少有变形金刚那个吉他老头估计也是刘欢爷爷。长的真象
作者: 驴子    时间: 2008-8-29 11:09

我觉得都挺好
作者: 小歪    时间: 2008-8-29 11:34

对于很多英国人来说，高贵的传统才是他们的骄傲，比如风笛，皇室什么的。。。而闭幕式上所谓的酷酷的前卫的文化在他们心中并不代表英国或者说并不是引以自豪的地方。。。
作者: 驴子    时间: 2008-8-29 11:44

8分钟要秀出一个国家，怎么拍都会有人来骂

除非这个国家就那么点东西，8分钟就能秀完
作者: 取个名字想半天    时间: 2008-8-29 11:58

作者: csuchen2007    时间: 2008-8-29 12:42

作者: leisureyang    时间: 2008-8-29 14:01

其实不差啦
作者: liu1114    时间: 2008-8-29 15:44

原帖由 驴子 于 2008-8-29 12:44 发表
8分钟要秀出一个国家，怎么拍都会有人来骂

除非这个国家就那么点东西，8分钟就能秀完

同意.
一些英国人觉得8分钟没有描绘出他们的历史,他们的传承,并且很不认同政府所谓的酷酷的文化,但事实上,他们当年就是靠伦敦的年轻化这个口号打败了巴黎等国,申奥成功
作者: fussfun    时间: 2008-8-29 17:47

原帖由 liu1114 于 2008-8-29 16:44 发表

同意.
一些英国人觉得8分钟没有描绘出他们的历史,他们的传承,并且很不认同政府所谓的酷酷的文化,但事实上,他们当年就是靠伦敦的年轻化这个口号打败了巴黎等国,申奥成功


但是你看lz给的英国愤青的留言，他们不少人的意思刚好相反，他们是认为这个show太不够酷，太不年轻化了。
作者: fussfun    时间: 2008-8-29 17:56     标题: zt 强人分析 十个方面解读伦敦八分钟的意思

　　1、等车的人包括各种肤色的人，表现出伦敦是一个国际性都市，主要表现其文化的多元性和包容性。

　　2、有残疾人表现出残奥的元素，这一点考虑比较周到，也体现出人文关怀。

　　3、双层大巴是除白金汉宫、大苯钟、伦敦桥之外最后有特色的伦敦标志。

　　4、英国的流行歌曲在世界上的地位是极高的，英国文化的象征之一就是摇滚。

　　5、雨伞表现出伦敦的气候特征，也是英国人日常生活的必备品，雨伞出现在道路上使人立刻想起《雾都孤儿》等伟大的英国作品。

　　6、街舞部分表现出奥运是大众聚会，街舞本身就是大众文化。

　　7、等侯公交车的情景设置表现奥运的平民化特征，这一点可能是我们最不能做到的。

　　8、小贝的出现主要表现体育元素，是伦敦和体育的结合，相比我们的开闭幕式和雅典八分钟最缺乏的就是体育元素，不知为什么，是导演没想到还是怎么回事，什么都有就是没体育。

　　9、众人为小女孩过马路作垫背一节表现出对未来一代的关爱和期待。

　　10、伦敦表演设置在跑道上没有进入最核心的地带表现出一种谦虚和随意的姿态。

　　
　　伦敦八分钟

　　其实英国有很多可以体现的元素，文艺复兴、工业革命等等等等，但伦敦八分钟一点都没有去涉及，这体现出他们的自信。

　　我认为伦敦八分钟最大的特点就是三个字“平民化”。
作者: fussfun    时间: 2008-8-29 18:05

我感觉伦敦8分钟里所有的元素来自同一个主题就是 平民化

北京8分钟里所有的元素也是一个主题 北京欢迎你
作者: fussfun    时间: 2008-8-29 18:11

在北京奥运的开幕式里，其主题其实还是北京欢迎你，而不是奥运口号“一个世界一个梦想”，一个世界一个梦想倒是成了北京欢迎你的一个下标题。



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