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标题: 韩国人YY升级 汉字是韩国人发明的 6park.com [打印本页]

作者: 真精不怕火恋    时间: 2006-7-13 22:31     标题: 韩国人YY升级 汉字是韩国人发明的 6park.com

韩国学者发表的论文,说明了汉字是古代韩国人发明并传播到中原。

  简单的翻译一下:  
  我坚持认为,所谓的“汉字”,可能是由高丽人祖先发明发展的,至少,也有可能是其他阿尔泰语系的非华人牧民族创造的,虽然人口众多的中国人也使用汉字作为自己的书写系统。我相信:任何族都不能利用人口数量来模糊本源,我将陈述一些证。
  
  I insist that the so-called Chinese character (Hanja in Korean) was probably invented and developed by Korean ancestors or, at least, other non-Chinese nomadic people who spoke in Altaic or related languages, although the populous Chinese also have used it as their basic writing systems. I believe the number of population of any ethnic group should not be a factor that obscures the origin. I explain some evidences.
  I insist that the so-called Chinese character (Hanja in Korean) was probably invented and developed by Korean ancestors or, at least, other non-Chinese nomadic people who spoke in Altaic or related languages, although the populous Chinese also have used it as their basic writing systems. I believe the number of population of any ethnic group should not be a factor that obscures the origin. I explain some evidences.
  
一位韩国精英peterkim(会英语写作)在一个英文站关“韩国人发明汉字”讨论的留言:
  
  peterkim:中国历史被普遍地扭曲,这是众所周知的。你看看围棋比赛,韩国可以轻易地击败中国。如果围棋真的是中国发明的,那中国为什会下那差?我们再看看育运动,看看世界杯(可能指足球吧),中国每次和韩国比赛都会被打败得很难看!在现代化技术方面,韩国的三星,现代,LG,起亚制造的产品全球流行,但是中国的产品在哪呢?一个13亿人的民族却不能打败一个8千人的小民族,韩国人仍然在乎所有的领域做得比中国人好很多。真理不是在这(指讨论“韩国人发明汉字”的论坛),而是在你们中国人是否接受这个真理(“韩国人发明汉字”)。很多在中国的中国历史学家都认为东夷人是韩国人,是Da'wek kou 文化(不懂)的创造者。这记载司马迁的史记中。 www.csuchen.de/bbs

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个说明:
Da'wek kou 文化指的是大汶口文化
地点是在今山东省泰山地区。 www.csuchen.de/bbs

整篇文章不值一驳,虽然韩国人YY之程度让国人目瞪口呆,不过这东西也实搞笑到点,大汶口文化的原居民被称为东夷人,可惜他们居住地在现在的山东省,这说来,韩国人的老祖宗还是中国人呢:) www.csuchen.de/bbs

文中竟然以竞技成败反推起源,如此一来,足球肯定不是英国人发明的,他们被巴西人、阿根廷人打的像没有一样啊~所谓的英语,应该是美国人创造的,中国人?他们可能发明了乒乓球和羽毛球,印度人和巴基斯坦人发明了板球当然,这些结论都是“时俱进”的,100年可能会有变化,请恕我不能随时更新了…… www.csuchen.de/bbs

The so-called Chinese character was probably invented and
developed by Korean, although the populous Chinese also have used it as
their basic writing systems. I believe the number of population of any
ethnic group should not be a factor that obscures the origin. I explain some
evidences.
被称为“汉字”的文字有可能是高丽人发明的,尽管拥有庞大人口的汉民族将其用作基础书写系统,但是我相信人口数量不应该成为混淆事物本来满目的因素。下面我将阐述个例证。 www.csuchen.de/bbs

1. The original pictographs called 'gab-gol' (bone and shell) or 'bok-sa' in
Korean were certainly invented during the Yin dynasty (or Shang state, BC
1600~BC 1046), although it is uncertain who was the inventor. There is no
dispute regarding this matter between Korean and Chinese historians. There
are ample recent evidences that the dominant people of the Yin dynasty was
Korean, which some Chinese historians also acknowledge.
1、被称为“甲骨”(骨和甲壳)或在韩语中被称为'bok-sa'的原始象形文字,可以肯定发明殷朝(或商国,1600 BC ~ 1046 BC),虽然不能肯定是谁发明的。在这一点上中韩两国历史学家兼没有争议。最近,有力的证证明,殷朝的统治者是高丽人,部分中国历史学家也知道这一点。 www.csuchen.de/bbs

2. Among countries that adopted Chinese character, only Koreans use exactly
one syllable for one character. Chinese or Japanese used one or more
syllables for one character. A good example is the sounds denoting the
numbers. Only Koreans use just one syllable for one number. So, it is very
easy for Koreans to say any complex numbers quickly. www.csuchen.de/bbs

For another example, the sound for 'white' in Chinese character in 'baek'
(one syllable) in Korean but 'bai' (two syllable) in Chinese. Regarding the
character denoting 'head', it is 'doo' in Korean but 'tou' in Chinese. On
the other hand, it is the same for the character denoting 'mountain' -
'shan' in both Korean and Chinese. www.csuchen.de/bbs

Why have Koreans used only one syllable for one character, but Chinese one
or more syllables? It certainly shows that Chinese pronunciation system is a
variant from Korean counterpart. www.csuchen.de/bbs

3. Some basic pictographs reflect Korean life-style and customs.
3、一些基础象形文字反映了高丽人的生活方式和风俗。 www.csuchen.de/bbs

For example, the character denoting 'house' (ga in Korean) contains a
character denoting a pig (hog) in the lower part. In the house, people live,
not a pig live. Why did they adopt a pig to denote a house? Only Koreans
raised pigs within their house.
例如,表示“家”的汉字(韩语发音ga)的下半部分包含了表示“猪”的汉字。为什他们接受一头猪来表示“家”?只有高丽人把猪养在屋子。 www.csuchen.de/bbs

Another example is the character denoting 'sun'. The character contains a
dot within a rectangle. Why did they contain the dot, seemingly
unnecessarily? The dot denotes a golden crow. Only Koreans had the legend
linking the sun to the golden crow.
另一个例子是表示太阳的汉字“日”。这个字包括一个矩形和面的一个点。为什他们要加上这个点?看起来完全没有必要。这个点代表着一只金乌鸦。只有高丽人中流传过把太阳和金乌鸦联系起来的传说。
Additional example is the character denoting 'surname' (ssi in Korean). In
Chinese, the character denotes only 'surname' while it denotes both
'surname' and 'seed' in Korean. 'Ssi' is a most common word in Korean and
compares the pedigree with the tree (i.e., the seed is a common symbol for
the original ancestor whose trace has been handed down by his surname). www.csuchen.de/bbs

4. Korean history book describes the origin of written systems, which is
inscribed in dolmens in Korea. www.csuchen.de/bbs

A Korean history book called Chun-bu-gyung records the origin of both
current Chinese character and Korean alphabet (hangul). Chinese character is
a kind of pictograph + ideograph, while hangul is the most advanced of
phonogram + ideogram in the world. Bone and shell in***ions were a
pictograph, while hexagrams of I-ching invented by Fu Xi (Bokhwi in Korean)
are a kind of ideogram. The original character for both Chinese character
and hangul was 'Nok-doo-mun' (the most ancient writing system), according to
the Chun-bu-gyung. Currently, only Koreans still play a game called 'Yout',
which is believed to be very similar to the 'Nok-doo-mun'. The principles of
Yout game are essentially the same as I-Ching. Moreover, in Korea and
Manchuria, currently there are many ancient rocks (dolmen) in which various
kinds of primitive writings are inscribed (see some pictures at
http://myhome.shinbiro.com/~kbyon/culture/rokdo.htm) www.csuchen.de/bbs

Based on these four facts, I strongly argue that the Chinese character was
originated and developed by Koreans. The differences in pronunciation system
for numbers between Chinese and Korean clearly indicates it's Korean origin. www.csuchen.de/bbs

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I add my message on Fu Xi and I-Ching. Fu Xi (or Bokhwi in Korean) is one of
the candidates for the inventor of Chinese characters.
下面加上我关伏羲的主要看法。伏羲(韩语称Bokhwi)是汉字的发明者之一。 www.csuchen.de/bbs

Han and 'I Ching'
汉代的'I Ching' www.csuchen.de/bbs

The hexagrams of the I Ching were said to have been created by the
legendary emperor 'Fu Xi' after he had contemplated on a diagram
called Ha Do that was bestowed from the Heaven. Han scholars rewrote
many myths as fact to fill gaps in early Chinese history. Fu Xi was
declared to have been the very first emperor, ruling from 2852 to 2737
BC. He was said to have been the inventor of musical instruments and
Chinese handwriting [1].
'I Ching'的六角形图案说是传说中的皇帝伏羲在对上天赐的名为 “Ha Do”的图案深思熟虑创造的。汉代学者重写了大量神话以填补中国古代史的缺陷。傅锡被说成是最早的皇帝,2852 BC-2737 BC在位。说他还是音乐和书法的发明者。
注:'I Ching'是什,我小人家才疏学浅,真不知道。会不会是《易经》?“Ha Do”是《河图》吗? www.csuchen.de/bbs

Chinese legend says that Fu Xi is the most senior one among the three
ancestors. Together with N-Wa, the women who he married with, they
started the civilization of human being. The current Fu Xi's Temple in
Shandong was built on a 6-meter high terrace. In the main hall, Fu
Xi's state was placed and sacrifices are given. And in the back of the
hall, N-Wa's statue was placed [2].
中国传说称伏羲氏三位祖先中地位最高的。他和女娲,他的妻子,以其开创了人类文明。现在在山东的伏羲庙建在一个高6米的平台上,主殿供有伏羲像,前列供品,主殿的背则共有女娲像。 www.csuchen.de/bbs

It is said that the upper body of Fu Xi is that of a human being while
his lower body is in the form of a snake. Inferring from the
scientific nature of the I Ching, it may just be possible that Fu Xi
was an extraterrestrial. If Fu Xi was indeed the first ancestor of
Chinese, then how could the descendents describe their first ancestor
as a monster? Why did ancient Chinese historians initially consider Fu
Xi as just a legend? Ancient Chinese call their neighboring people as
"bugs" or"barbarians". The monster portrait suggests that Fu Xi might
have been from a neighboring country, not Chinese countries. What was
that country?
说伏羲上身是人,下身是蛇,考虑到'I Ching'的科学性质,只有一个可能:伏羲氏外星人。如果伏羲真的是汉族人的第一个祖先,那他的代怎能把他描述成一个怪物呢?为什古代的中国历史学家只是把伏羲当作一个传说人物?古代汉族人把他们的邻居称作“虫豸”或“蛮子”。伏羲的怪物形象说明他可能来自邻国而不是中国。是哪个国家呢? www.csuchen.de/bbs

"Fu Xi came from the nationality called East Yi dwelling in the
Neolithic Age, along the coastal area of the present-day Shandong
Province and, therefore, Fu Xi turned out to have come from Shandong
Province" (quoted from a Chinese site [4])
“伏羲来自新石器时代一个称为“东夷”的国家。该国位今天的山东省沿海地区,因此,结论是伏羲来自山东。“(摘自某中国站) www.csuchen.de/bbs

What was "East Yi"? Of course, "Yi" means "barbarians" in Chinese.
Most Koreans know what is "Dong (east) Yi". People in 'East Yi' are
known to have been very good at archery, as Korean Olympic archery
teams are today. The Chinese character "Yi" indeed symbolize the
shape of a big bow. Surprisingly. the recently discovered Korean
history text titled "Han Dan Go Gi" describes the life of "Fu Xi"
(Bokhwi in Korean) [3].
“东夷”是什?当然,“夷”在汉语中是“野蛮人”之意。大部分高丽人知道什叫“东夷(Dong Yi)”。“东夷”人已精射术闻名,正如今天的韩国射箭队。汉字“夷”实表示一把弓的形状。令人的是,最近发现的名为《Han Dan Go Gi》的韩国历史文本描述了伏羲(韩语称Bokhwi)的一生。 www.csuchen.de/bbs

It writes that he was the son of the 5-th emperor of the Baedal
(B.C.3898- BC 2333) and his surname was "Pung" as he lived in
"Pung-san". Although the surname "Pung" no longer exists in Korean
names, some related words survived to today such as "Pung-chae"
"Pung-gol" and"Pung-shin", all of which are terms for describing human
body shape. Another daughter name was "Yeo-wa" (N-Wa in Chinese) [3].
书中写到他是Baedal帝(3898BC-2338BC)的第五子,殷住在“Pung-san”而姓“Pung”。虽然现在“Pung”这个姓氏在韩国已不使用,但有些相关的词如“Pung-chae”、“Pung-gol”和“Pung-shin”仍然保存了下来。这些词都是用来形容人的各个部位的。另有一个女名为“Yeo-wa”(汉语为“女娲”)。 www.csuchen.de/bbs

It writes that she was known to have a magical talent to make a human
being from mud and to be extremely jealous (these two points, together
with the sound, might may remind you of Jehovah) [5].
书中写到她以具有抟土造人的法力和善妒而闻名(这两点,加上声音,可能会让你想起耶和华)。
作者: 陈进男    时间: 2006-7-13 23:33

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作者: 小胖仔    时间: 2006-7-14 00:05

一个13亿人的民族却不能打败一个8千人的小民族

8千人???
作者: 会员18888    时间: 2006-7-14 00:18

有点乱
作者: 陈进男    时间: 2006-7-14 06:57

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作者: laoyuan    时间: 2006-7-14 09:44

韩国人这叫自娱自乐
作者: 黄药师    时间: 2006-7-14 11:46

呵呵
作者: schulmacher    时间: 2006-7-14 12:48

既然是韩国人发明的,他们为什么不用汉字,或者更确切的说,为什么废汉字,改用颜文?
作者: 猪肉荣    时间: 2006-7-14 13:39

韩国人真歹毒,想制造这样的笑话把咱笑死,就这样把咱中国灭了?
作者: 陈进男    时间: 2006-7-14 15:00

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作者: 博爱主义者    时间: 2006-7-18 10:24

韩语也才是700多年前发明的,他tmd还叫个jm枭阿。
作者: 陈进男    时间: 2006-7-18 10:46

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